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The jaw identified by Johannes Hürzeler as belonging to a human ancestor: even a non-expert can see it is not human!

The jaw identified by Johannes Hürzeler as belonging to a human ancestor: even a non-expert can see it is not human!

A jawbone, found at a depth of 183 m (600 feet) in a Tuscan coal mine, was identified by Dr Johannes Hürzeler of the Museum of Natural History in Basel (Switzerland) in 1958. It was badly distorted through its burial in the coal, but was sufficiently identifiable to enable it to be given an age at death of between five and seven. A number of biologists suggested that it belonged to a human ancestor, Hürzeler going so far as to claim it as “the world’s oldest man”, but this claim was not accepted by the overwhelming majority of palaeoanthropologists. It is now largely ignored as a potential ancestor. Creationists have taken this to mean that it was fully human, claiming it to be of modern morphology. This is nonsense: it belongs to a fossil primate, Oreopithecus bamboli, which flourished during the Miocene period, around twenty million years ago.

2 Responses to A child’s jaw in coal?

  • Sarah says:

    Quick question. Because (and this is to be expected for this type of find) the “overwhelming majority of paleoanthropologists” did not agree with Dr. Hurzeler’s claim, then it must be – as you so eloquently label it – “nonsense”?. And how are you backing your own claim that this particular jaw comes from that of a fossil primate? Is it fair to assume that you yourself have never examined the specimen in person? And am I also fair in assuming that you perhaps read the classification of this mandible somewhere else, say in an article that fit in with what you believed, and that is why you have declared it so? I ask because in your article debunking the validity of an iron cup allegedly found in a lump of coal deep in an
    Oklahoma mine, one of the main arguments against it being genuine was that processes of the formation of coal would have rendered the iron cup’s natural form into something more unnatural in appearance. For that article, I felt that was a fair objection. However, in this particular article – which also involves an odd artifact and coal – you make ZERO mention of that fact. Lightly you touched on how the jaw “was badly distorted through its burial in the coal” (which given the information you provided in the OTHER article makes sense), yet you end your prose, and make mention in the caption under the photograph, that the whole idea this find is even slightly “human” is ridiculous. Basically, you’re telling me that with my un-trained, un-educated eyes I should CLEARLY be able to see that the photo of the mandible is not human… Let’s be realistic here. If coal should deform iron, should it not also deform bone – especially to the point of being virtually unrecognizable? If recent DNA analysis has been done on this specimen to confirm your claims, then I suggest you add them – you know, so that those who come across this piece don’t just take your word at face value…

    • Stewart Caldwell, Ph.D. says:

      Sarah,
      I’m not on anyone’s side here, but perhaps can contribute some helpful facts. No offense to anybody.
      First the cup, iron and coal (carbon) under the considerable heat of deep underground pressure, could possibly transform iron into some type of steel. This would require quite considerable time, but could harden it and improve it’s elasticity somewhat (like spring steel). Not definitely but possibly.
      Second, the so called oreopithecus bamboli jaw was an organic artifact. Organic in this situation meaning a living organism which is carbon based. A twenty million year old oreo is nonsense. At least without photo ID. Six or seven million years is more realistic. The bones of the body would have shown significant elasticity if it had been buried shortly after death, or fallen into a crevice which caused death. And available water would have helped. So the twisting and bending is not unusual. And sometimes more often the rule than the exception.
      Finally, If you look at the jaw, you will see that it widens toward what would be the back of the mouth. This is an indication of a position between what we were, and what we are. As our ancesters evolved, the foramen magnum, which is where the neck enters the back of the skull in the great apes, lower and more forward in our early progenitors, then through evolution, the top of the neck gradually shifted downward and to the front. Therefore the entry of the neck is now at the base of the skull. The rear of the jaw had to widen to allow the windpipe to fit into all this multimillion year remodeling. This accommodates humans walking on two legs to look ahead. Not the only change by any means. But we can also look back over our shoulders. They couldn’t. I hope this may help.

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